David Barton the Roman

Robert R. Livingston

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“The framers of the Constitution recognized the eternal principle that man’s relation with his God is above human legislation, and his rights of conscience inalienable. . . It is an inborn principle which nothing can eradicate” (Congressional documents {U.S.A.}, serial No. 200, document No. 271).

David Barton who founded WallBuilders chose the right name for his club. He is a wall builder. He is building walls between himself and reality. He has been thoroughly refuted by Chris Rodda in her book Liars For Jesus.

Don’t persecute the Christians but use them to make Rome  greater. America will be greater if we can force people to live like Christians. We all know how legalizing morality went when Rome began to crumble under the confusion that prevailed when they laid at Caesar’s feet the things that belong to God. And we can be sure that God accepted not one thing that was Caesar’s and he never will.

Only Christ can save the soul. Only he can change the heart; not laws.

Caesar will compromise with God. But God will never compromise with Caesar. Caesar will either do exactly what God commanded (Repent of your sins)  or come down. As did Goliath when he dared to challenge the army of the living God. Barton is challenging the army of the living God by his constant barrage of notions flung against the wall of reality claiming he knows what each American must think and do in order for God to bless us.

Though I disagree with them; there are some Americans who just don’t believe in God. What about them? I know one thing about them: God loves them. There are other Americans who believe there is a God but live like the devil. Still they have rights under the Constitution. I know they need to be individually saved not collectively controlled by laws in a country where Barton insists that the founding fathers were men of God.

The Lord Jesus never went out for lunch with Tiberius. He never campaigned for Caesar and neither did his followers. His message? Repent or go to hell is what he preached. He showed them one day, when he angrily overturned the tables in the temple driving them out with a whip, exactly what he thought about their secular games played in his Father’s house.

His disciples followed his lead. Repent or die.  And be forever lost to go to that place where the worm dies not and the fire is not quenched. Herod (state) died and the worms ate him up BUT the word of God (Church) multiplied. And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. 22And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. 23And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.But the word of God grew and multiplied. (Acts)

Give Caesar what is his and give God what is his. Trying to give God what is Caesar’s and Caesar what is God’s is called the Christian Coalition and the Religious Right. The Reconstructionists think they have a warrant from God to take the world by force. Notice these people never preach repentance. Their entire move is false prophecies and worldly possessions. Jesus warned that false prophets will even cause fire to come down from heaven to deceive if possible he very elect. They travel the globe giving false prophecies to nations and call themselves by great names.

As for America: it is a melting pot of many nations all united in one cause; be happy. As are all nations many nations all united for one cause; be happy. You mind your business not mine. Keep your dog out of my yard and we will get along just fine.

One person is a nation as proved when the Lord told Rebecka that two nations were in her womb when she was carrying Jacob and Esau. (See Genesis) So it follows then that all of their descendants were many more nations.

Today’s Religious Right should be called Religious Wrong.

Why is America great? For the very reason it has separated church and state.

The founding fathers did this because they had the sense to know that you don’t go to church to hold a political rally. They realized the courthouse is not the place to sing hymns to God. The church is where this is done by the Christians.

Take George Washington (I don’t know if he was a Christian or not) but for sake of argument say he was a born again Christian. How in order would he be if he expected atheists to pray with him before they went to battle? I believe in prayer and I loathe and abhor what atheists think. But I respect their right to not believe in God. God did not call me to pray for, or campaign for laws to be made that will force atheists to see things as I do. Only God can change the heart.

The religious Right is wrong and because of their distorted interpretation of the Bible they want to take over the Oval Office, take over the country, take over the world, take over human minds, and wills, all in the  name of freedom?  And call that freedom Jesus. Rome revived is America’s religious right. Rome revived is America.

What really is liberty? Is it the atheist’s freedom to say there is no God? Or the fornicator’s choice to live a sexually immoral life? Yes it their choice to decide what they want. God doesn’t want them to do these things. However God never forces us to be obedient to his commandments.

If you want to go to hell then go. I don’t want you to go there, but I cannot stop you. I am to pray for your salvation and I do. If you don’t believe in hell that is your choice. I declare when Jesus saved me he made me know by the witness of his word that he wants sinners to come to him, but does not force anything on them.

Who am I to withstand God as said Peter when he saw that God poured out his Spirit also on the Gentiles (not just the Jews) when he saved the Roman centurion Cornelius and his household with some of his friends. If people want to sin that is their choice. If they choose to repent and come to Jesus this is great. But Barton is trying to nail jelly to his wall if he thinks that church and state are the same.

Granted we have laws but they were made for the lawless. To punish were they made not to save. No law ever has been able to save or change the wicked hearts of men. Only Christ saves. America is not the Savior; Jesus is.

I don’t need a secular law telling me not to shoplift. God already told me in the law of Moses not to steal. I don’t need America to tell me right from wrong. God already did when he gave the world the law of Moses through Israel.

But Barton is spreading lies that this nation was founded a Christian nation by holy men of God. That we need to return to our roots.  What roots? The truth is this nation was founded by extremely intelligent men who recognized what would work to make the nation function. It was their intelligence that did it not because they were holy men. Granted there may have been believers among them. But what they wrote down are secular rules for successful living not Holy Writ.

God’s word always from Genesis to the Revelation of Jesus Christ is about redemption through the blood of Jesus. The Constitution is not about redemption, it is about rights. The right to be a Christian or the right to live a wicked life. Barton fantasizes that God and Caesar are one and the same.

But the truth is God is holy and Caesar is wicked.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17

To have liberty in Christ is to have the liberty that obeys God. Not the liberty to live in sin everyday of your life. God is angry with the wicked everyday. This is in the Bible.

To be continued…


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