God Against Public Nudity

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The Hebrew prophet Isaiah “walked naked and barefoot for three years as a sign … against Egypt and Cush.” The Lord Himself directly commanded Isaiah to do this to represent the utter shame these people would experience.

Nakedness was used here as warning of judgment.

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. (Revelation of Jesus Christ 3:18

Here God makes it clear that we need to be covered. Dare anyone say that the Lord approves that these people he addressed here go naked? The fall in Eden caused God to make them clothes to wear..

Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. (Ezekiel 16:8)

Here God covered nakedness. He did this in Eden after they sinned against him. He made covering for them. Dare anyone say that the Lord in this passage approves of women exposing their bodies thus tempting men to sin?Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? (Isaiah 58:7)

God here tells Israel to care for others which would include making sure they have clothes to wear.

And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. (Genesis 9:22-27)

A curse is placed upon Canaan the son of Ham for looking at his father’s nakedness.

And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment; (Ezekiel 18:7)

God here pronounces blessings on those who cover the naked.

 Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate. Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers. Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.(Isaiah 47:1-3)

I understand this last verse to be God warning women to cover themselves or he will come to them, BUT not as a man will he come. He will come with judgment on her refusal to cover herself. He tells them to go ahead and expose themselves but when he comes to them it will be to punish. God equates nakedness with shame. Once the nakedness is uncovered then her shame shall be seen.

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21 responses to this post.

  1. Matthew 7:15-20

    15Watch out for false prophets! They dress up like sheep, but inside they are wolves who have come to attack you. 16You can tell what they are by what they do. No one picks grapes or figs from thornbushes. 17A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. 19Every tree that produces bad fruit will be chopped down and burned. 20You can tell who the false prophets are by their deeds.

    First of all, you are taking Revelation 3:18 out of context. In the Message to Laodicea, Christ was speaking of the spiritual wretchedness, poverty, blindness and nakedness of the Church in Laodicea.

    Revelation 3:17-18
    Contemporary English Version (CEV)
    17You claim to be rich and successful and to have everything you need. But you don’t know how bad off you are. You are pitiful, poor, blind, and naked.

    18Buy your gold from me. It has been refined in a fire, and it will make you rich. Buy white clothes from me. Wear them and you can cover up your shameful nakedness. Buy medicine for your eyes, so that you will be able to see.

    Second, in Ezekial 16:1-34, it refers to Jerusalem’s unfaithfullness to God.

    Third,in Isaiah 58, God was talking about “True Religion”, which would be taking care of those who are in need (we do need clothing to protect us from things in nature that can harm us and the elements, and we should give clothing to those who need them for protection).

    6 I’ll tell you
    what it really means
    to worship the LORD.
    Remove the chains of prisoners
    who are chained unjustly.
    Free those who are abused!

    7 Share your food with everyone
    who is hungry;
    share your home
    with the poor and homeless.
    Give clothes to those in need;
    don’t turn away your relatives.

    8 Then your light will shine
    like the dawning sun,
    and you
    will quickly be healed.
    Your honesty [b] will protect you as you advance,
    and the glory of the LORD
    will defend you from behind.

    9 When you beg the LORD for help,
    he will answer, “Here I am!”
    Don’t mistreat others
    or falsely accuse them
    or say something cruel.

    10 Give your food to the hungry
    and care for the homeless.
    Then your light will shine
    in the dark;
    your darkest hour will be
    like the noonday sun.

    Fourth, in Genesis 9:20-27, Ham “saw his father naked and told his two brothers outside.”, literally means that he gazed with satisfaction. In contrast, Shem and Japheth showed respect for their father in verse 23.

    Fifth, in Ezekial 18:7, you are taking the verse out of context. Ezekial 18: 5-9 describe a righteous man, including taking care of those who are in need:

    5 “Suppose there is a righteous man
    who does what is just and right.
    6 He does not eat at the mountain shrines
    or look to the idols of Israel.
    He does not defile his neighbor’s wife
    or have sexual relations with a woman during her period.
    7 He does not oppress anyone,
    but returns what he took in pledge for a loan.
    He does not commit robbery
    but gives his food to the hungry
    and provides clothing for the naked.
    8 He does not lend to them at interest
    or take a profit from them.
    He withholds his hand from doing wrong
    and judges fairly between two parties.
    9 He follows my decrees
    and faithfully keeps my laws.
    That man is righteous;
    he will surely live,
    declares the Sovereign LORD.”

    And, last, Isaiah 47: 1-15, Babylon is also a symbol of organized humanity in rebellion against God, who are charged with pride, excessive cruelty, , and practicing sorcery and divination.

    In every Bible passage that you have referred to, you have taken these verses out of context, just as every false prophet has done!

    Rev. Larry Geiser

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    • Call me all the names you want. This is usually what one does when he lost an argument. Following is a list of people who EVEN KNOW to wear clothes:
      1. Rapists
      2. Child molesters
      3. Satanists
      4. Adulterers
      5. Serial killers
      6. Homosexuals
      7. Thieves
      8. Liars
      9. Millionaires
      10. Homeless people
      11. Politicians
      12. Presidents
      13. Kings
      14. Psychiatrists
      15. Children
      16. Beggars
      17. CEO’s
      18. Most Americans
      America being a civilized nation
      All nations even in those where Christ is not served.
      Anything that applies to us spiritually applies to us physically.
      Do you deny that God opened the eyes of the blind?
      Ever hear of Bartimaeus?
      He still opens blind eyes and heals the sick and even raises the dead.
      Your argument that it is OKAY to run naked is a losing one.
      All civilized people wear clothes.
      God required this after the fall in EDEN.

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  2. God did not require people to wear clothes, after the fall in Eden. God provided clothing to protect us against the nature and the elements. The belief that we should be clothed was brought into the church by pagans.

    Your response is one of desperation, and fails to address that you have taken every one of these bible verses out of context with the surrounding verses, to prove a point that is non-biblical and of pagan origins.

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    • Tell that to the billions of civilized people on earth that do not agree with you.

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    • Posted by Doug on June 26, 2011 at 17:50

      My belief, or hypothesis, is that when God created Adam and Eve in His own image, it was a spiritual form, not physical. Dust could be the only way Moses could describe beings of energy. When they sinned and were cast out of Eden, God gave them animal skins for clothing, ie, our flesh bodies, or as Paul describes, the temple of the spirit.

      Humans were created on the sixth day along with all the other animals, without a spirit, but as Adam and Eve’s progeny spread out and intermingled with the other humans this spirit, albeit sinful, was passed on through their progeny.”

      God wants us to wear clothes.

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    • [[[[[[[[An examination of the Bible shows that God created our bodies and that His creation was good.

      Genesis 1:31 “And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”

      Then we have the direct statement by God:

      Genesis 2:25 “And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”

      There you have it, naked and not ashamed! Now I know what you are thinking: “Yes, but keep reading, they sinned and realized that they were naked. They put on fig leaves to cover themselves, so nakedness is not good!” The problem however, is that such a conclusion — that nakedness is bad — is not found in the text. Such a conclusion, while common among religious thought, is simply not found.]]]]]]]]]

      Go find out what SIN is.

      [[[[[[[[For the moment, let’s say that nudity is not good (some would even say “sin”) based on this common mis-understanding. Where do we find that it is then acceptable to be nude in front of your spouse (since most would say that this is OK)? What about the passage? Adam and Eve were the only humans at this point and they covered themselves from themselves. As we read:

      Genesis 3:7 “And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.”

      So Adam and Eve covered themselves from the sight of the other. Is this to be the normal conduct between a husband and wife? No, not at all.[1] Then we find out more, that Adam and Eve hid themselves in the bushes from God. This is parallel to hiding their “private parts” from each other. They attempt to hide their personal/private lives from God.

      8And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

      Now notice the next statements from Adam to God as God calls out to him:

      9And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 10And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

      Adam was afraid of God because he knew he was naked, so he hid himself. Now God asks Adam a very powerful question that was meant to open Adam’s heart to what has happened.

      11And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

      Adam was asked WHO told him that he was naked. The answer is of course found in the next question: “Have you eaten of the tree that I told you not to eat?” Yes, Adam and Eve did eat of that tree and it was the power of that tree that “opened their eyes” (3:7, cp. 3:22) to their naked state.

      Now we come to an important question. Was their nudity wrong, or bad? If we let all the prior verses, which show God made the human body and that it was good, and that Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed – if we let these verses speak, their nudity was not bad. They had good nudity! So what is happening when we read that they put on fig leaves? To answer this we must think from the texts of what we read.

      Why the fig leaves? Because they can’t handle the GOOD of their bodies. Their eyes had been opened and they now know something they didn’t know before. Thanks to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they discovered that they were naked – they knew the GOOD of their bodies. Now in a changed relationship to God (spiritual death), they couldn’t handle the good. The forbidden fruit was said to give the knowledge of good and evil. Such knowledge is profound and powerful. Prior to eating the fruit they did not have that knowledge. Also, Adam responds to God “I was naked…” when in fact he had just covered himself with the fig leaves! Their good physical nakedness, even when covered, did not hide their spiritual sense of nakedness before the eyes of God. This knowledge of good and evil is a very seminal point. All Bible students know that this affects the rest of humanity.

      They could not handle the good so they sought to cover it up. This is the first instance of many more to come where humanity takes something that is good and becomes ashamed by the goodness of it all and has to cover it up.[2] In eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil they got what the tree would provide. Their eyes were opened to the reality of good and evil. We often focus in on the problem of evil, but here we see the problem of good. And simply put, we often can’t handle it! A sun rise; a sun set; the emotions of life; the undeserved love from another human; and ultimately the undeserved kindness of God. We can’t handle it – the GOOD! And we avoid the beauty; we hide our selves from unconditional love; and we shun any contact with anything that puts us near to seeing the kindness of God.

      Adam and Eve covered up themselves from themselves – they couldn’t handle the good. They now had a sense of shame in their disobedience from God. They covered themselves from their good, naturally nude bodies and they hid in the bushes from their wonderful Good God. Such an act of disobedience in eating the forbidden fruit had its effects. It was in their estranged state from God that the good shamed them and they covered up the wonder of the good. Later David would cry: “I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.” (Psalm 139:14)

      About now you are thinking: “So, OK, I can see what you are talking about. Adam and Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and their eyes were opened. The first thing they saw was their nakedness, which was said to be good, and yet they covered it up. But didn’t God agree with them – that nudity was something to cover up – when He gave them coats of skins!” To this I answer that He did provide them with coats of skins but for more practical reasons. First, He needed to atone for Adam and Eve’s transgression so an animal was sacrificed – a shadow of what would come under the law with Moses, and ultimately, the death of His Son Jesus for the world. They would wear[3] that coat and be reminded that a blameless animal took their place in death. Second, He had cursed the earth (3:17,18) resulting in thorns, thistles and other plants that are rough on a nude body. The skins would provide them with protection from the new hostile environment. Some sort of clothing would be needed as He sent them out from the Garden of Eden. Lastly, there is a possible aspect of accommodation – God accommodating them by giving them a covering until they could learn to deal with the knowledge of good nudity.[4]

      It would be completely inconsistent for God to create Adam and Eve nude and then for that nudity to be bad. One study Bible said: “Adam’s sin was evidenced by his new knowledge of the evil of nakedness…”[5] How can this be? How could nudity be good one second, then evil the next? We must not read a cultural aversion to nudity into this passage. Their good nude state didn’t change. They now had knowledge of good and they could not handle it, so on went the fig leaves. God doesn’t tell Adam, “Good job Adam, covering up the evil nakedness.” Rather He asks how Adam knew he was naked with the obvious connection “have you eaten of the tree whereof I commanded you that you should not eat?”

      When you read the passage you’ll also discover that God nowhere condemns nudity or their bodies. He gave many pronouncements (3:16-19) that affect their (and our) lives as they were to live under the “curse,” but nothing about nudity. In fact, in my study of nudity as discussed in the Bible I find no commands against simple, basic nudity. I have come to see that nudity is a non-issue and is allowable to humanity as culture, climate and conditions allow. This last sentence is important – as culture, climate and conditions allow. In other words, nudity is in itself not evil or bad it is natural and neutral. Nude is not lewd.]]]]]]]]]]

      SIN it is called SIN this is what you fail to look at. SIN is in the world!
      Goodbye.

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  3. “The human body can remain nude and uncovered and preserve intact its splendor and its beauty… Nakedness as such is not to be equated with physical shamelessness… Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person…The human body is not in itself shameful… Shamelessness (just like shame and modesty) is a function of the interior of a person.” – Pope John Paul II [1]

    1. Source: Karol Cardinal Woytyla (John Paul II), Love and Responsibility, translation by H. T. Willetts, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, New York: 1981 via Wikipedia.

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    • I for one do not see any beauty in smelly rectums or sweaty stinky genetalia. Not to mention armpits. We just know this to be true.
      Let’s just tell it the way it is.
      This is part of my ministry. The truth and the facts.

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  4. Desperation…still no response to the fact that you are taking Bible verses out of context from surrounding verses.

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    • Read my blogs however I can see you are bent on believe that nudity is okay. I am done here.

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      • Anyone can see by reading these verses, and the surrounding verses, that you are taking these verses out of context, but you have been blinded!

      • This is my last response to you. You think I’m blind simply because i believe the good Lord wants us to wear clothes. I also refuse to post comments that are mean and judgmental.
        I find more and more comments and keep responding but am growing weary of this.

  5. Posted by Jim on June 26, 2011 at 18:32

    The Jewish cleansing ceremony, mikvah, of Jesus’ time required complete nakedness. John’s baptism was in this tradition, therefore it is highly likely Jesus was publicly naked when he was baptized, just as the early church art depicted. The early church required complete nakedness for baptism. This symbolized openness, death, rebirth, purity, taking off the old and putting on the new.

    If man (male and female) is God’s highest creation, in His image, why do you believe God wants His beautiful creation always hidden?!

    What does people disagreeing have to do with what is right in God’s sight?

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  6. d Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
    And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. (Genesis 9:22-27)

    This is literal! This REALLY happened! A curse because he looked on his father’s nude body.

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  7. You are misinterpreting the verses. The original language means that he “gazed with satisfaction”.

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    • He looked at a naked body is the point in these passages. For that Canaan was cursed.
      Why are you so bent on trying to convince that God approve of nudity?
      6 billion people running around naked is just not a good idea.
      I’m waiting to post what sociology says about public nudity, how it violates boundaries.
      How it robs the one forced to look at nudity of their choice and right to privacy.

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  8. No, the point is, “He gazed with satisfaction”. Why are you bent on trying to prove that God is not against nudity, but is against the narrow-mindedness of men, and what is wicked, unjust and who are at war with God. Mankind has been at war with God, since Adam and Eve ate from the tree in the Garden of Eden.
    There would be a lot less crime if there were 6 billion people naked, no place to hide weapons, nudity would be the norm, and people would not be tempted by the body. In public nudity is accepted, there are a lot less sexual crimes than countries where it is not accepted, like the US. How would it rob anyone of of there right to privacy and their choice, if we were all back to the natural state in which God had created mankind?
    Anyways, I thought you were not going to respond back to me! Your responses are so lame…no solid proof, misquoting or taking scripture out of context, and responses of desperation.

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    • Your insults and personal attacks are proof of the kind of tree you are.
      You need to go on CNN or FOX news and MSNBC and tell the world what you just told me that everyone needs to run around naked. Tell the world through CNN that nudity is the way to live in the world 24/7.
      God does not share your opinion as the Bible proves because they all wear clothes as the norm..
      I really think you need to repent and quit attacking me just because I, like Jesus, wear clothes.

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  9. Posted by Roland-Annette Smith on July 6, 2011 at 07:05

    [[[[[[[Dear BDO, I am new here so please allow me to introduce myself. But first, I do want you to know that I do not wish to debate you but rather prompt you to at least consider a view that may not be conventional by “Christian Religious Churchianty Standards”. I pray you can receive what I say as a brother in Christ and not and enemy. I agree and like much of what you say on your web sight and would like to consider you a friend and not a foe.]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

    If you do not wish to debate me why are you here? Do you think I won’t answer for myself?

    [[[[[[[[I was raised an evangelical MK (missionary kid) in various parts of the world, spending my teen years and into my twenties in Europe smuggling bibles behind the Iron Curtain. We attended both Baptist and Pentecostal churches depending what was available. As an adult I continued in world missions and church leadership receiving my degree in Biblical and Ministerial Studies.]]]]]]]]]]]

    So here you put forth your so-called qualifications..

    [[[[[[[[[[[[[[I believe in the One True God revealed in the three persons of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I believe in Salvation by Grace alone, the gift of God and not of works lest any man should boast. I believe the Bible is the Inerrant Living Word of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. But I also believe that the vast majority of humanity does not believe as I believe. But I still believe it, as my belief is not predicated on anyone else, it is based solely on the word of God.]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

    No your belief so far is not based on the word of God, but on Catholicism and traditions of men and not on the word of God. Knowing this I am warned of where you will go next. If you cannot believe the Bible then who knows what you will come up with..

    [[[[[[[[[[[[Conversely, it seems you base much of what you believe on what others say. So now please allow me to address what you have put forth and as you accurately state, is the common belief among society and the Christian church. You said, “And most of us wear clothes.” and “Billions of people wear clothes because most of the world’s inhabitants are sane.” I am sure you were taught in grade school that you don’t do something just because everyone else does it.”]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

    I do the exact opposite. I only believe what God says. Romans 3:4 says Let God be true and every man a liar.”

    [[[[[[[[[[[And then you have a list of people who are in agreement with you that clothes are good. I have to say, I would not want to be named among the list of people you put forth as role models for wearing clothes except for maybe the children and homeless. But I do wonder, how do you justify putting children and child molesters in the same list for the justification of clothing? Sounds awful strange. I put asterisks on the groups I would rather not have as a role model, clothed or unclothed.

    1. Rapists *
    2. Child molesters *
    3. Satanists *
    4. Adulterers *
    5. Serial killers *
    6. Homosexuals *
    7. Thieves *
    8. Liars *
    9. Millionaires *
    10. Homeless people
    11. Politicians *
    12. Presidents *
    13. Kings *
    14. Psychiatrists *
    15. Children
    16. Beggars *
    17. CEO’s *
    18. Most Americans *]]]]]]]]]

    My simple point here is that even criminals and crooks know to wear clothes. My point with this list simply is that the lowest or highest, richest or poorest, educated or uneducated, law abiding or criminal, sane or insane of the human race, even in all their depravity, or in all their worldly pride and accomplishments, and evil or good doings still know to wear clothes. My point is that there is NO excuse for anyone not to wear clothes.

    [[[[[[[This list is not a good reason for wearing or not wearing clothes. It is better to seek what Gods word says and then respond accordingly.]]]]]]

    God’s word is clear and I take it that all I wrote on my blogs proving from the Bible means nothing to you. Or you did not read them. I was clear! You want to convince me with your “qualifications” in tow that I am wrong because I see clearly that God makes it CLEAR that we are to wear clothes” I think not.

    [[[[[[[As for your scriptural justification, several have said that you have taken the scripture out of context.]]]]]]]]

    I do not concern myself with what others say if it does not agree with the Bible… and do you really think that God did not make clothes for the disobedient couple in Eden? If you do than you need to read it again and again until you see where God clothed the disobedient the fallen and kicked them out of Eden. Perfect no more they had to wear clothes!!!!!.

    [[[[[[[[[[[Unfortunately I must agree with this assertion. Let me show you why with two examples you mentioned. First is the classic Noah story. You have painted yourself into a corner because you have not even taken the time to do a simple goggle search of the context and the word Naked used here. Go to Bible.cc and look up the meaning and use for the word nakedness in this context. You will find that it is of a sexual nature. And it doesn’t stop there; it specifically speaks of incest and homosexual sin.]]]]]]]]]]]

    You may argue all you want. BUT the fact remains that God wants us clothed.
    [[[[[[[God did did not hate Noah’s body so much that the mere sight of it would bring a curse of such magnitude.]]]]]]]

    So where did I say that God hates naked bodies? God hates sin. I know he hates sin but nowhere in all my blogs did I say such a thing that God hates naked bodies. I invite you to search my blogs word by word. And you will not find anywhere that I said God hates naked bodies.

    [[[[[[[What kind of cruel God would create us naked and then curse us for accidentally seeing someone naked?]]]]]]]

    God is not cruel it is man that has shown himself cruel.
    Again and for the last time God want us clothed.

    [[[[[[[[[[This is really common sense stuff.]]]]]]]]]

    Yes Common sense tells those of who wear clothes to wear clothes.

    [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[The second example is you article about the Underwear in Exodus. I believe it would be a safe bet that neither you or I are neither Jewish or Hebrew Priest.]]]]]]]]]]

    You have no idea. I may be Jewish.

    [[[[[[[[[[[[Look at the context, this was a specific commandment for a specific occasion that does not apply to anyone other than to Aaron and his sons.]]]]]]]]]]

    So now you’re trying to say that only Aaron and his sons were to wear underwear but all the rest of Israel was commanded to run around naked without underwear? I think you misunderstand the Bible. So am I to believe that when David said in Psalm 23 that goodness and mercy is only to follow David, and NOT me, and and not ALL who trust in the Lord? Am I to believe that everything Jesus said applies only to those who personally heard him in person for the three years he was here? Does Peter’s sermon in Acts only apply to the devout Jews who heard him that day? It is you is who taking the Bible to wrest its scriptures to use them to fit your own biased view.

    [[[[[[[[[[[And by the way, read the whole chapter and look at all the stuff it says to wear. Again it would be a very safe bet that you are not now or probably never have worn any of these items. “a breastplate, and an ephod, and a robe, and a broidered coat, a mitre, and a girdle.” And that’s just verse 4]]]]]]]]]

    MY above statement applies here as well..

    [[[[[[[[[Do you believe that Gods Will ever changes?]]]]]

    It will always be God’s will for men to be saved. It will never be God’s will for men to not wear clothes in this fallen world.

    [[[[[[[[[[[[[[Do you believe that Gods Will is the same as His intent?]]]]]

    God doesn’t “intend” stuff, he says and it happens. He doesn’t live by intentions.

    [[[[[[[[[It was Gods intent for humans to live naked]]]]]]]

    God also doesn’t want people to commit adultery and murder and lie and steal…BUT they do..

    [[[[[[[[And His intent is wrapped in His will. They are one and the same. The idea that the body is sinful and shameful is what is known as original sin or that I am guilty of Adams sin. I am no more guilty of Adams sin than I am of your sin or anyone else’s sin. This is a Gnostic teaching. Not a biblical teaching. I believe that to hide the body shamefully or view it pornographically, that either way is an Abomination to God.]]]

    Go ask CNN if they will allow you on naked and tell them exactly what you told me here. Ask FOX news also for a spot to announce that God wants all of us naked.
    Have you ever heard of a thing called SIN? It is called SIN. Ever hear of It? Do you know what it is? It is the transgression of the Law. Do you know what the Law is? It is every word every commandment that God handed down to Israel at Sinai.

    [[[[[[[We are the pinnacle of Gods creation.]]]]

    We are SINNERS.

    [[[[[[And there is nothing sinful in Gods creation.]]]

    I take it you never heard of serial killers or rapists or adulterers and liars and thieves and so on…

    [[[[[But our will or choice can be sinful if we choose against God. And why would we choose against God? Two reasons, because we become prideful and because Satan deceives us. But that’s an issue of the will or soul, not the body.]]]

    We already chose against God in Eden. We sin because we are sinners not because we sin.
    Learn this….the body is controlled by the MIND. Satan works on us through our minds thus he can enter the heart, hence the body will follow and commit the sin that entered the heart, through the mind, to get to the heart, to control the body. Think on that for while.

    [[[[[I’ll quit for now.

    Blessings in the Strong name of the One True God, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.]]]]]]]]]

    Roland

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  10. See: About This Site about my beliefs.

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