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Agnostics Debate Apologists and Usually Win the Debate

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I listen sometimes to debates between atheists and believers. I just listened to one last night between an agnostic and a well-known apologist. I would say the agnostic won the debate simply because it was the same old thing the apologist presented. That evil exists because it is somehow good for us in some way.


Skeptics want answers they will never receive from their intellect. Or from anyone’s else’s. The answer to evil in the world is Christ. There is no other answer. It is okay to debate we can learn much. Of course apologists know this. But to try to explain away all the evil by saying “God gave us free will” is nonsense.

No sane parent would place two glasses before her beloved child and say to the child..”Okay here is a glass of orange juice and a glass of orange juice with rat poison. I give you free will to choose which one you want.”

We are not kinder than God and God did not do what he is accused of by many. He did not place two glasses of orange juice before the human race: one mixed with rat poison. And say Dear human race that I love…now you CHOOSE which one you want. That is evil and God did not do this.

I read where one apologist tried to justify evil’s existence in the world by citing a case of a mother whose child died. But after so-called counsel she finally realized she would have the child again just for the love the child brought her. I would not want her for a mother.

What? She would do it again if she could? No mother in her right mind would say “Yes I am grieving my child who has died. But if I could do it all over again for the love this child brought me than it was worth it.”

That would be the depths of selfishness and empty of love. No mother would “do it all again” knowing her child would die. Just so the mother could experience love it was okay for evil to exist which evil caused the child’s death? This is what the apologist was implying.

The mother in this case was thinking only of herself and not of the child who died. I wonder if she would have this attitude if it was she who died? This so-called reasoning is not from God but from Satan.

No mother would do such a thing. A decent mother would deny herself and not bring a child into the world knowing he would die so the mother could experience love.

This is why the Lord went to the cross to die to destroy the works of the devil not justify them. Evil is bad, there is no good in it; it has to go. Yes God can work all things together for our good. But he still came to destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 3:8 (KJV) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

This God gave us free will reason is the worst of all presentations to explain why evil exists. God would never give us free will to disobey him. He commanded us to obey him.

Earthquakes happen some apologists say because of tectonic plates. Really? Skeptics want to know why the tectonic plates are even there to start with. It is not tectonic plates it is SIN that is the problem. 

Is there an elephant on the floor? With some apologists there seems to be.

To be continued…


Church and State Obviously are Separate

Ephesians Chapter 4:[1] I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
[2] With all lowliness and meekness, with long-suffering, forbearing one another in love;
[3] Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
[4] There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
[5] One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
[7] But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
[8] Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
[9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
[10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
[11] And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
[13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
[14] That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
[15] But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
[16] From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
[17] This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
[18] Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
[19] Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
[20] But ye have not so learned Christ;
[21] If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
[22] That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
[23] And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
[24] And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
[25] Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
[26] Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
[27] Neither give place to the devil.
[28] Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
[29] Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
[30] And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
[31] Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
[32] And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.
In this chapter Paul’s letter was not to the unsaved citizens of Ephesus, but to the church at Ephesus whom he called saints. He called them “the faithful the called in Christ Jesus”.

They were the saved of that city not to sinners who did not know Christ. Apostles prophets pastors evangelists and teachers, which is the five-fold ministry,was not given to the government but to the church. For the perfecting of the saints and for the work of the ministry. God did not provide for the government what he gave to the church. If one is not in the church he is lost without Christ and headed to hell. This is the clear teaching of Jesus.

To believe America is a Christian nation, which it is not, is the same as saying what Paul said in this particular letter (and all of his letters) is to all citizens of the United States.

Though Christians are against the beliefs of many in this nation, It must still be recognized all citizens of the nation have rights under the Constitution to the pursuit of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Even though Christians disagree with their idea of what life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is still it must recognized their right to their idea of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Anyone who reads Paul’s letter to the Ephesians or any of his letters to the church, if honest, must recognize Paul did not intend that the instructions in his inspired letters to be followed by the unsaved.

The Bible is clear that one must be saved to inherit eternal life. Jesus said unless one is born again he cannot by any means enter the kingdom of God. (John 3)

One must believe in Jesus Christ to be saved from sin. And to believe in him is to follow him by obeying his commandments.

The government does not follow Christ. They give rights to do whatever one wants to do.

David Barton Claims America Founded on God’s Word.

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I quote now from another site (one could copy and paste this quote and Google and find the site) about the man whose beliefs I oppose in this blog.  “David Barton is the Founder and President of WallBuilders, a national pro-family organization that presents America’s forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on our moral, religious and constitutional heritage.” ( end of quote)

Barton proudly wears stars and stripes shirts showing that he is American. He also sports a ten-gallon hat. His red white and blue wardrobe is to boast of his so-called heritage that he is an American, the best there is, and the favorite of God. He claims this nation was founded on the Bible. He also claims to be a Christian when in fact, the Bible greatly differs from his beliefs.

He ignores or is totally ignorant of American history. He is also ignorant of the holy Bible and of the nature and character of God.

This nation is not founded on the Bible. It is an insult to God what this man is spreading to the Bible ignorant. Barton’s whole agenda is to present God as he sees God . And God is not Barton’ puppet. God is none of the things Barton presents him to be. I happened to catch him on TBN talking to Matt and Laurie Crouch. His rhetoric was unbiblical.

God founded his church on the earth in the hearts of those who come to him in repentance to Christ. He calls all nations all people to come to him. But Barton wants to selfishly possess God. He wants to tie a golden chain around God’s neck and call him America’s Attack Dog. He wants to sic God on other nations (individuals)  because they do not share his beliefs. He wants to force the world to bow to what he sees as the only nation in the world that has God. His view of God is limited to `from sea to shining sea.`

God is omnipresent and he is omniscient and omnipotent. God is not Barton’s little pet to carry around in his red white and blue shirt pocket. Then pull him out as a show and tell for the founding fathers.  Barton’s red/white/blue presentation is basically he dressed as the American flag claiming..“This is the American flag and this is God and this is the gospel.”

Is Barton a keeper? No he is a troublemaker of the first order. He is out there presenting the ALMIGHTY as an American and not as the dear Savior of all men that he truly is.

Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men. (1 Timothy 2: 1)

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. (1 Timothy 2:4)

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

So how was this nation founded on the Bible?  On Judeo-Christian principles? The Greek columns and temples that contain all American thought is Greek  inspired. It is Greek and Roman not Hebraic. The laws of the United States, as all laws in civilized nations; reward right and punish wrong. The Greek philosophies, and all things Greek and Roman are sure signs this nation was not founded on Hebraic teachings.

In truth all nations are under God. They are all founded on the simple basic desire to do the right thing. Wanting to be happy is the desire of all nations. There only exists in the universe good and evil to do. You either do one or the other. No lukewarm stuff with God. Lukewarm living brings his wrath on anyone who thinks he will be part of his lukewarmness. All people in all lands do either good or evil or both.God rewards good and punishes evil; it is that clear.

If you don’t believe this then go study the case of Cornelius in Acts 10. Or the Roman centurion who build a synagogue for the Jews.

No nation is favored by God. Nothing is approved by God but Christ himself. God said of Jesus This is my beloved Son in whom I am  well pleased.” God never said that of any nation or people. Only in Christ is God well pleased.

Let the dead bury the dead Jesus said. And follow him. Jesus will not lead you to palaces and castles. He will lead you to the fields where the souls for whom he died are perishing.

Israel his elect nation because of repeated acts of disobedience by playing the harlot under every green tree was scattered among the nations. Where does that leave the rest of  the nations that do not obey? Judgment begins at the house of God.

What happened to Israel should give us a clue what will happen to people who sin against God.

Each person is a nation as proved by God telling Rebecka two nations were in her womb. Two human beings were two nations before they were even born. Two nations who became many nations.

Barton doesn’t seem to understand that within the United States are many many many many nations. But the only “holy nation”the apostle Peter spoke of in his letter is the church, which is the Body of Christ which Body is all over the globe.

Determining what is right however is the problem for many when they do not know the Bible or care what it says. But the Bible is still correct in its teachings. History tells us nations do not always do the right thing but go to war against each other.  Murder and rapes and crime of all sorts are a worldwide epidemic. Adultery and fornication and other sexually immoral sins are committed worldwide on a daily basis.

Nowhere does the Bible say to do these things. In fact it commands to do the opposite. No nation on earth throughout history obeys the Bible as is proved by trillions of sins committed daily with no repentance by the nations committing them.

Daily God is treated as if he is nothing. But nations don’t come to God souls do. Jesus did not die for nations he died for you and me individually. Barton is dangerous in that he is indirectly telling the world that God is stupid. Barton thinks that God thinks like him.

I remember when I was a little four-year old  child sitting in a little church where I heard about Jesus for the first time. I was so overtaken by the gospel message from the preacher that I was barely able to wrap my little four-year old mind around it. I was almost falling over in the pew. I heard him say that Jesus had died for me. Well I didn’t take it that he had died for anyone else in the church. And many people were there that day. I took that message as personal as it could be personal.

That was God’s intention his purpose for me to hear that message as a personal message for me from him. I cannot describe my shock and joy to learn that a man I didn’t even know had died for me. All my little four year old mind could think was oh how he must love me!

Well I also learned that since he loved me that much he must also love ALL people that much. People everywhere! It cannot be that I am the only one he loves and died for. So when I learned as an adult that he died for all people in all lands in all ages I was completely overcome with love and gratitude to such a God. It caused me to love all those he died for which would include every person on planet earth.

I was completely overwhelmed to hear this. I did wrap my mind around it. I processed it. I understood and to this day that experience has never left me.

Jesus died for me and he died for YOU reader whoever you may be. He did not die for nations as some call nations. He died for YOU. He died so you could live.

Barton’s thing is to make God an American. Barton’s thing is to restrict God and his love to America. He should be going around telling the world that Jesus loves all people in all lands and wants all to come to him today.

Salvation is an individual thing it has nothing to do with nations unless that nation is Israel.

It is true that when the Biblical Rebecka was pregnant with Jacob and Esau God told her that two nations were in her womb. So from this we know that each person is a nation. Jesus died for the nation that YOU are. That I am.

What is founded on the word of God? Only the Bible itself can claim it is holy and without error. But nations who kill each other who rise up against each other killing the very people for whom Christ died is NOT from teachings founded on the Bible. All nations have done that.

Christ’s message was of repentance. The first word, recorded in the gospel, that Jesus said when he began his ministry was Repent.

The Bible does not anywhere give rights to anyone. Yet America gives rights to whoever, to do whatever, wherever. This nation was founded on individual rights not on the holiness of the word of God. Barton could never show that it does.

The Bible teaches that not even the right to control our breath is ours. Our breath is a loan so to speak. It doesn’t belong to us to keep it as long as we want as is proved by deaths occurring every minute all over the globe. When God says it is time it is time and no one is exempt. Disease and accidents take lives by the millions and no one can do one thing about it. I do not have the right to decide anything that is not under the control of God. And everything is under his control. All nations and all people.

Yet America is famous for its rights for all people to do whatever they think is right.

“Ye are not your own: for ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.”(1 Corinthians 6:19-20.)

Where in this passage do we have any rights? God is not foolish. He is not going to trust man with rights. God gave the world commandments. We can see what man does when he thinks he has rights. The world is in dire straits because of man exercising his rights.

The right to remove prayer from schools.  The right to say Thank God for dead Soldiers. The right to divorce your spouse because someone else looks better. The right to deny the Lord who bought you with his blood. The right to protest anything you disagree with. The right to kill the unborn. The right to “marry” one of your own sex. The right to parade naked down a street dressed in the American flag. The right to a trial after you committed cold-blooded murder. The right to kill yourself and call it euthanasia. The right to pull the plug of helpless people as was done to Terry Schiavo. The right to sue for no reason.

The Constitution is not founded on the Bible. The Bible commands men to repent. The Constitution is founded on the right to sin and sin and sin some more. This is your right

So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. (John 8:36)

Freedom isn’t the right to sin. Jesus means freedom from sin. SIN is the transgression of the law of Moses. Jesus sets free from sin. Then are you free when you quit sinning and follow the Lord Jesus.

What is right and what is wrong? Does China try to do the right thing? Does Brazil? Does Canada? Yes they all do and so are they founded on the Bible? Yes if they believe in home and family. If they believe in justice and retribution for evil and reward for good. All nations under the sun seek for love and justice. They seek to be happy as do all nations everywhere. This is from the Bible.

But no nation  obeys the Bible without error so as to be called holy to the Lord.

[Israel is a nation holy to the Lord because he founded that nation for the express purpose of bringing Jesus into the world.]

When God handed down the law to Israel at Sinai he gave them exact laws to live by. He told them exactly what to do to be happy and to live fulfilling lives. Only a demented person would not want to be happy. This is what the Bible is about. God shows us how to be happy. Is that happiness confined to one nation? No because all nations are under God and he loves everyone of us.

To be continued….

America is the Roman Empire (edited)

[God began to reveal this to me several years ago that America is the Roman empire. I had never thought of such a thing. But God called me when a child to study his word. I know when he says something to me or reveals]

Many people do not know that the Hebrew prophet Daniel who lived about 600 BCE told us the future of the world.

From the Babylonian empire, which was the golden empire of the ancient world, to silver kingdom Persia under Cyrus and Darius, to the brass kingdom of  Greece under Alexander the Great, to the iron Roman Caesars, to right now iron (Strong) America, the entire history (history to us now) and the future of the world is revealed in that one dream God gave to a pagan king.

We can know what is here and what is still to come. As someone wisely said...history unfolding is prophecy un-scrolling.

We cannot look at events and say this is what God meant until we actually see it come to pass.
Then we look at the prophecies and see it as clear as could be.

IE: We now know that the gold, silver, brass and iron were the four empires that came one after the other. The four superpowers of their day.

Babylon Persia Greece and Rome. No other kingdoms will arise..

The king of Babylon at that time dreamed a dream of a great image. God gave Nebuchadnezzar a dream he could not understand. The frustrated king was told of Daniel the Hebrew captive who might be able to help him with his problem.

Daniel was one of those that had been carried there from Israel.

The king called for him and by God’s power the prophet (seer) told the king his dream and the meaning of it.

Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.This image’s head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay. Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. (Daniel 2:31-34)
In Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of the great image where he saw the gold head, the silver chest, the brass belly and iron legs with feet of iron and clay; he never said the iron had a break in it, that it ended. It is intact somewhere. The image goes from the head all the way down to the feet and toes of iron and clay. So really the Roman empire has never ended. So where is it?

In north America.

Now Daniel the prophet told Nebuchadnezzar he was the head of gold.
So the king was the empire since he controlled it.
“You are this head of gold.”
And wherever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven has he given into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all. You are this head of gold. (Daniel 2:38)

In other words the empires were and are people with minds. And minds think..

Unfortunately today Barack Obama is America. He is the president so he fits that description Daniel gave.

Nebuchadnezzar was Babylon. Darius was Persia. Alexander was Greece. The Caesars were and are Rome.

Also out of the Roman empire will come the son of the devil, who is the son of perdition, the Antichrist. No doubt it is certain the Antichrist will be a Roman. He has to come out of the nation that has the technological ability to make everyone small and great take the mark on their forehead or on their hand.
Test-tube baby? Cloning? Sperm bank? Who knows but the modern day Damien will appear soon.
He has to for scripture demands it.

Nebuchadnezzar was the head of gold. Then came Cyrus (Persia) who overthrew Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar), then came Alexander (Greece) who overthrew Persia.
Then came Rome (Caesars) who crushed them all and ruled the world. Rome began in 7 BC. Rome is the ruler power of the ages. It is the last kingdom that will exist when Jesus comes again. The very empire that rejected and executed him.
It is still ruling today. Only under a different name; America. City states united and called the United States.

Study the image yourself and find that the legs and feet and toes of iron and clay never broke in the dream nor in history. It is intact to this day.
It traveled through the ages and arrived here a few hundred years ago.

1776 AD it became the USA; it revived. The deadly wound was healed, the wound delivered to it by Christianity and caused it to “fall” in 476 AD was healed.

Rome was able to continue ruling since many (IE: Constantine himself) who professed Christianity never learned to love their neighbor as commanded by Jesus the founder of Christianity.  Nothing but wars from then to now by so called Christians. When Christianity reached the mighty Roman empire the emperor did what this nation does today; mix church and state. This is actually what brought on the Dark Ages. God was seen as the God of the state and the true Christians died for being seriously annoying.

The two legs; Rome divided into Rome and Constantinople.

But at the end of the age right before the stone (Jesus Christ) cut out of the mountain(God)
smites the image on its feet it will still be ruling the world. It has to be for it is the last kingdom. Where is Rome? Is it ten nations? Using that you could name ten nationalities and come up with America.
The Scotch-Irish the English the French, the Italian, the Spaniard, the German, the Native American the Blacks, etc until you have ten bloods in one nation. Ten minds forming one mind to form one ruling government.

What thinks for the kingdom is the kingdom. The eagle represented ancient Rome and the eagle represents America.

The European Union call it what you will; America ( Roman Empire) rules the world and will rule until Jesus Christ returns.
They mingle but do not cleave to one another as Daniel said.

Americans  who are of diverse nations mingle but do not cleave to one another. America is famous for its different peoples who mingle but do not mix. It is that way in America. Mingling but not mixing.  What else could Daniel mean? He saw the future and he saw the United States of America as the last kingdom.

The  iron and clay feet and toes must be in power when Jesus Christ returns. The stone will smite the image on its feet. America is the feet or iron and clay.
The feet Daniel saw is what is holding up the rest of the image.

This dreadful image walks  if you will…it has walked through the ages causing death and destruction wherever it went…
this image is alive and well today.
Yes it has built nations,but also made wars and death and shed much blood.
Daniel said..”In the days of these kings..” all those kings (minds) must be in existence at the end of days. What they think must exist and it does in how the world lives today under the rule of America.
Rome ruled with its legions as does America with its military. Who is able to make war with the beast? No one can make war with America. Nebuchadnezzar himself was the head of gold. Babylon is money and sex and power and fame.

and the other kings are Cyrus, Alexander and the Caesars. The Caesars which are now the American presidents. If one studies America they will find within its design Rome and Greece and Persia and Babylon. It is sure. This study goes on and on but I’m trying to come to the point.

Then the Lord after he has utterly destroyed the ruling dominating empire he will set up his kingdom which will fill the earth.
What a day that will be! It is right upon us.

The New World Order, the verichip, the swine flu,  earthquakes happening all over the globe and tsunamis, etc., and pestilences and wars and rumors of wars are all signs that the time is come.

Consider…..America has a great military like Rome did.
Did any army compare with the Roman Legions? It ruled the world!
Roman senators/United States senators

Highways and isn’t this what Rome is also famous for? Their highways?
The lex Hortensia (287 BC.) was as the Judicial, Legislative and Executive branches of the United States.
The Pantheon of Rome looks just like the United States capitol building, the White House, the courthouses across the land of this nation all have their pillars and columns and domes as did ancient Rome..

and on and on the same….
What mind designed the courtyards, pillars and columns that are precisely the same in America and design and purpose as they were in ancient Rome? It must have been a Roman mind. How can it not be?

How did the Romans get to America? By ship.
During the time of the early church the Gentile Christians were more in number than the Jewish Christians. After the apostles died things did not go well.

(See Acts 20:26-31)
Paul warned of what lie ahead.

So how did the Romans get from Rome to America? Ships.
And they brought the Bible with them. The Bible they received when Paul the apostle took the word of God to them. he wrote a letter to them. It is called the epistle to the Romans. Paul did say to Israel that because they rejected the gospel to the Gentiles he would go.
The Gentiles are the very ones who have the gospel today. (Israel has been partially blinded by God for while. See Romans 11) Paul took the gospel to Rome. The Bible and History verify this. Everything in America was designed after the ancient Roman frame by the Gentiles who had the gospel, the very ones who came to this land and called it the United States of America.

And the Bible per se was not used by the founding fathers, it was already instilled in them to know right from wrong. It was part of their culture. They used the  knowledge of right and wrong, justice and punishment to form the Constitution. There was nothing else for them to use. It was all they needed the knowledge of right from wrong. That is all that exists to do: either right or wrong. All civilized nations know this.

Saying they based the Constitution and Bill of Rights on the Bible can be said of many nations.  All nations in the world do their best to do what is right. America is not a city set on a hill,  unless you mean Capitol Hill…it is one of many.

They insist that Rome must revive. But Rome never stopped being in power. It is still in power only called by another name. Its deadly wound was healed in 1776.

Who else can it be but America? The last kingdom must be in existence even as Daniel the prophet said.
What other nation in the history of the world could be Rome today?
Egypt? China? Korea? Spain? Portugal? New Zea land? Chile? Paraguay? Cuba?
India? Russia? Mexico? Syria? Pakistan? Africa? Iran? Iraq?
You could name every country in the world and it can..
Only be America.

In Pay Attention To Daniel’s Prophecy (Watch tower and Tract Society)
(I am not of the Jehovah’s Witness religion, but I appreciate their literature on history of the world and the Roman church. I also find much information from Baptist sources and other churches who distribute their literature on the history of the world and the papacy. It says…

“The Roman world power, however did not end with the removal of its last emperor in Rome in 476 C.E. For many centuries, papal Rome continued to exercise power over Europe. It did so through the feudal system, in which most of Europe’s inhabitants were subject to a lord, then to a king. And all kings acknowledged the authority of the pope.
Thus the holy Roman empire with papal Rome as its focal point dominated world affairs throughout that long period of history called the Dark Ages.”

Historian H. G. Wells wrote: “This new Roman power…was in several respects a different thing from any of the great empires that had hitherto prevailed in the civilized world…..[It] incorporated nearly all the Greek people in the world, and its population was strongly less Hamitic and Semitic than that of any preceding empire….It was so far a new pattern in history.

The Roman empire was a growth, an unplanned novel growth; the Roman people found themselves engaged unawares in a vast administrative experiment.” End of quote.

Notice this by HG Wells…”in which most of Europe’s inhabitants were subject to a lord, then to a king.”

and England got themselves a king, was subject to the pope. Then they decided they wanted to be Anglican. They left the pope’s authority. They then decided to come to America bringing all their Roman thinking with them logged in their lives with all the history of Rome mixed with Christianity.

And they called it the United States of America.

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. (Revelation of Jesus Christ 18:2)

How does Babylon fall? It comes down with the other kingdoms Daniel saw in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. When the stone cut out of the mountain smites the image  on its feet all the image is destroyed.  Babylon comes down. All four kingdoms (Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome) are destroyed when the image is smitten. This image has been stomping through the ages trampling everything in the path of world history. It is the world and its nations its systems its power. All in rebellion against God. This image is alive and well today. It exists in the gold (money) and silver (false religion) the brass (mighty armies) and the iron (power to oppress) and clay (the oppressed). These are the kingdoms of the world which all must be destroyed for the kingdom of God to be set up. The kingdom of which as the angel Gabriel told Mary about her Son’s kingdom..“Of his kingdom there shall be no end.”

Everything that is Babylonian everything that is Persian and everything that is Grecian and everything that is Roman exists today in  America and is America. It  alone is the last kingdom (iron and clay) with great power that visually exists right before it is destroyed by the mighty power of God.

It is the kingdom that rules right now, the last kingdom, and its future is foretold in the prophecy of Daniel.